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		<title>By: Outside The NBA &#187; Blog Archive &#187; LeBlog James, featuring a programming update</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethenba.com/2010/03/hedont/comment-page-2/#comment-6927</link>
		<dc:creator>Outside The NBA &#187; Blog Archive &#187; LeBlog James, featuring a programming update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 15:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] John Bennett, who’s hosting the podcast now, is going to be on board as a writer, too. Julian Guy-McCarvill will have a weekly column that’ll no doubt be full of statistics and hate. Eric Wagman will be writing and podcasting at least until he leaves Canada to become a spy &#8211; I hope someone pisses him off early this season as much as Turkoglu did last year. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] John Bennett, who’s hosting the podcast now, is going to be on board as a writer, too. Julian Guy-McCarvill will have a weekly column that’ll no doubt be full of statistics and hate. Eric Wagman will be writing and podcasting at least until he leaves Canada to become a spy &#8211; I hope someone pisses him off early this season as much as Turkoglu did last year. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Zzzzz</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethenba.com/2010/03/hedont/comment-page-2/#comment-6535</link>
		<dc:creator>Zzzzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your reaction to my comment is really childish and defensive - my writing is not the point here. As for Kelly Dwyer...he&#039;s an arrogant know-it all who also puts a lot of bias into his work. Definitely not what I&#039;m looking for in sports journalism.

Since you asked here&#039;s an example of my writing: http://armchairgm.wikia.com/Sports..._It&#039;s_a_Helluva_Drug

Many flaws I&#039;ll be the first to admit, but at least it&#039;s original.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your reaction to my comment is really childish and defensive &#8211; my writing is not the point here. As for Kelly Dwyer&#8230;he&#8217;s an arrogant know-it all who also puts a lot of bias into his work. Definitely not what I&#8217;m looking for in sports journalism.</p>
<p>Since you asked here&#8217;s an example of my writing: <a href="http://armchairgm.wikia.com/Sports..._It&#039;s_a_Helluva_Drug" rel="nofollow">http://armchairgm.wikia.com/Sports&#8230;_It&#039;s_a_Helluva_Drug</a></p>
<p>Many flaws I&#8217;ll be the first to admit, but at least it&#8217;s original.</p>
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		<title>By: James Herbert</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethenba.com/2010/03/hedont/comment-page-2/#comment-6532</link>
		<dc:creator>James Herbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there you go. Your opinion is here for the world to see. &quot;Zzzzz.&quot; Care to show us YOUR writing? Or why you&#039;re more qualified to judge sportswriting than Kelly Dwyer of Yahoo!, who called it &quot;fantastic work&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there you go. Your opinion is here for the world to see. &#8220;Zzzzz.&#8221; Care to show us YOUR writing? Or why you&#8217;re more qualified to judge sportswriting than Kelly Dwyer of Yahoo!, who called it &#8220;fantastic work&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Zzzzz</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethenba.com/2010/03/hedont/comment-page-2/#comment-6531</link>
		<dc:creator>Zzzzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an amateur, short-sighted, and biased piece that really misses the point. Turkoglu, is having a horrible season and this no one can argue. But if you look at his career, he has never been lazy, arrogant, and was always the underpaid over achiever. He even spent several seasons playing alongside Rashard Lewis who was paid multiple times what Hedo was making AND even took an All Star spot away from Hedo several years back when most agreed that Hedo deserved it more than him.

A good writer should be able to put his annoyance of a player aside and try to think of reasons and solutions. What you have done here is nothing more than a childish rant on an easy target on a terrible team.

As someone else said - this was a boring and unimaginative read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an amateur, short-sighted, and biased piece that really misses the point. Turkoglu, is having a horrible season and this no one can argue. But if you look at his career, he has never been lazy, arrogant, and was always the underpaid over achiever. He even spent several seasons playing alongside Rashard Lewis who was paid multiple times what Hedo was making AND even took an All Star spot away from Hedo several years back when most agreed that Hedo deserved it more than him.</p>
<p>A good writer should be able to put his annoyance of a player aside and try to think of reasons and solutions. What you have done here is nothing more than a childish rant on an easy target on a terrible team.</p>
<p>As someone else said &#8211; this was a boring and unimaginative read.</p>
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		<title>By: Partizan Turks</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethenba.com/2010/03/hedont/comment-page-1/#comment-6511</link>
		<dc:creator>Partizan Turks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, it is just enough you go to Raps website, and check the 6 minute highlight of any game you like. You&#039;ll see what I mean. I don&#039;t mean the assists he makes to Bosh/Bargs easy hook shots. I mean the 3s Jose/jack/wright makes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, it is just enough you go to Raps website, and check the 6 minute highlight of any game you like. You&#8217;ll see what I mean. I don&#8217;t mean the assists he makes to Bosh/Bargs easy hook shots. I mean the 3s Jose/jack/wright makes.</p>
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		<title>By: Partizan Turks</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethenba.com/2010/03/hedont/comment-page-1/#comment-6510</link>
		<dc:creator>Partizan Turks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Steve for the info but I guess one of the women you mention he cheated on his wife must be one of your relatives. Why this anger?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Steve for the info but I guess one of the women you mention he cheated on his wife must be one of your relatives. Why this anger?</p>
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		<title>By: reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the city of Toronto, the Toronto Raptors, and the fans of the Toronto Raptors, 

Thank you with all our heart for getting that cancer out of us at the 11th hour. Had you not intervened, we would have proceeded directly to oblivion. You saved our team at the direct expense of your very own, and we cannot thank you enough. Good luck getting an owner to touch that P.O.S. player and contract. No one in the NBA is that stupid. You know...  Al Davis is slipping these days, and you might be able to get back a decent outside linebacker for him. Or a shit sandwich-either way. 

Our deepest sympathies, 

Rip City</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the city of Toronto, the Toronto Raptors, and the fans of the Toronto Raptors, </p>
<p>Thank you with all our heart for getting that cancer out of us at the 11th hour. Had you not intervened, we would have proceeded directly to oblivion. You saved our team at the direct expense of your very own, and we cannot thank you enough. Good luck getting an owner to touch that P.O.S. player and contract. No one in the NBA is that stupid. You know&#8230;  Al Davis is slipping these days, and you might be able to get back a decent outside linebacker for him. Or a shit sandwich-either way. </p>
<p>Our deepest sympathies, </p>
<p>Rip City</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Wagman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Wagman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand how much Turk means to you, believe me. I&#039;m an Israeli, if someone was slamming Casspi I wouldn&#039;t like it either. But you have to be honest in your assessment of the guy. I&#039;m a MASSIVE Raptors fan. This was NOT something I wanted to write, or ever thought I would. It saddens me that its come to this. Go check my Raptors predictions if you don&#039;t believe me, I really wanted and thought Turk would be good. But he&#039;s not. The reason he&#039;s not isn&#039;t for the things he&#039;s doing on the floor, but for the attitude hes developed (or apparently has had for a little while). Entitlement and laziness. Those are two indefensible qualities in sports in my opinion. 

I don&#039;t ask that you agree with me, you&#039;re obviously entitled to your opinion. If you don&#039;t feel that those things are detrimental to a team, that&#039;s your opinion. But changing what the argument is about is a logical fallacy, and won&#039;t win you this argument. 

Besides, as someone who&#039;s watched the Raptors all year I can safely say that the Raptors team plays significantly better (top to bottom) when Turk isnt out there, even without all these clear looks that he&#039;s creating that you speak of. If you can find 5 different clips of him this year creating an open shot for somebody (creating, not just receiving a pass looking around then passing to bosh or bargs in the post), you&#039;ll have proved your point. I wouldn&#039;t waste too much time looking for those though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand how much Turk means to you, believe me. I&#8217;m an Israeli, if someone was slamming Casspi I wouldn&#8217;t like it either. But you have to be honest in your assessment of the guy. I&#8217;m a MASSIVE Raptors fan. This was NOT something I wanted to write, or ever thought I would. It saddens me that its come to this. Go check my Raptors predictions if you don&#8217;t believe me, I really wanted and thought Turk would be good. But he&#8217;s not. The reason he&#8217;s not isn&#8217;t for the things he&#8217;s doing on the floor, but for the attitude hes developed (or apparently has had for a little while). Entitlement and laziness. Those are two indefensible qualities in sports in my opinion. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t ask that you agree with me, you&#8217;re obviously entitled to your opinion. If you don&#8217;t feel that those things are detrimental to a team, that&#8217;s your opinion. But changing what the argument is about is a logical fallacy, and won&#8217;t win you this argument. </p>
<p>Besides, as someone who&#8217;s watched the Raptors all year I can safely say that the Raptors team plays significantly better (top to bottom) when Turk isnt out there, even without all these clear looks that he&#8217;s creating that you speak of. If you can find 5 different clips of him this year creating an open shot for somebody (creating, not just receiving a pass looking around then passing to bosh or bargs in the post), you&#8217;ll have proved your point. I wouldn&#8217;t waste too much time looking for those though.</p>
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		<title>By: Partizan Turks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Partizan Turks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you can&#039;t see how many players are finding clear looks to the basket with Hedo&#039;s assists, you don&#039;t know anything about basketball. Especially, look at most of Jose&#039;s, Jack&#039;s, and Antoine&#039;s 3s. I&#039;m not talking about the last games, through the season. How many clear looks they got with Hedo&#039;s assists?  

I know nobody said the quoted remark in the discussion but everybody insinuates that he&#039;s the only reason Toronto is losing and when he plays well, no team can stand in Toronto&#039;s path.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can&#8217;t see how many players are finding clear looks to the basket with Hedo&#8217;s assists, you don&#8217;t know anything about basketball. Especially, look at most of Jose&#8217;s, Jack&#8217;s, and Antoine&#8217;s 3s. I&#8217;m not talking about the last games, through the season. How many clear looks they got with Hedo&#8217;s assists?  </p>
<p>I know nobody said the quoted remark in the discussion but everybody insinuates that he&#8217;s the only reason Toronto is losing and when he plays well, no team can stand in Toronto&#8217;s path.</p>
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		<title>By: tweedster</title>
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		<dc:creator>tweedster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Toronto could have been the best in the league if Hedo wasn’t there, huh?&quot; 

Well, ou asked the question. Nothing in the article even comes close to stating that. But it is pretty clear that Turkloglu hasn&#039;t done much of anything to make the team better. At all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Toronto could have been the best in the league if Hedo wasn’t there, huh?&#8221; </p>
<p>Well, ou asked the question. Nothing in the article even comes close to stating that. But it is pretty clear that Turkloglu hasn&#8217;t done much of anything to make the team better. At all.</p>
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